Ideally you want to ally horde and kazan. It rewards you with several permanent buffs so if you can complete Novgorod missions and then form Russia you get the best of both. Because ofc Muscovy is way stronger than you. Novgorod is way harder to use to form Russia. The only "trick" for early game is to release as vassal the sunni province so you have a sunni vassal to feed with the sunni provinces you get from the hordes, unless you start with religious idea first (which is not bad choice btw). Missions guide you to Russia formation but you're not forced to follow them in order. It's stronger than Novgorod and better positioned. So, Muscovy is the obvious choice for Russia. I've played those two during this holidays since I was looking for easy games away from Africa and America and I didn't have the achievements yet. ![]() But I am thinking that a start as novgorod could give an economic advantage over the muscovy start, since the northern trade node would provide some nice starting capital for the russian expansion.Īny ideas or points that I have overlooked? Would it be an advantage to start as Novgorod in order to do as many novgorod missions as possible, and then switch to russia, and get the new missions? I am guessing that missions are positive, and you gain some benefit, so more missions completed would mean more advantage? Or is there some mechanic I am unaware of?Īlso regarding Ideas, if I start as novgorod, do I get to choose if I want russia ideas? Or am I forced to keep novgorod? It seems like the russian ideas are much more suited for the eastern expansion, so I would prefer that for the mid/late game, over the novgorod ones. But the novgorod ones are changed to russias? The Novgorod would have a slightly different focus, since it is a trade nation.īut when forming russia, what year would this approximately happen? How far along the idea track would I be, when forming russia is an option?Īlso regarding missions (this will be my first playthrough with missions.yeah yeah, long time ago, I know), do you keep your missions? Or do you switch over to the ones from Russia? As far as I can see, the muscovy and Russia ones, are kinda the same, so I guess they simply stack on top. What would be the most fun to try out russia with? I am guessing the muscovy run would be more or less the same all the way through the play.-through, since russia and muscovy seems to have the same focus (mass military, and going east). I have already seen a couple of russia threads ending in discussions where Muscovy is the "correct" russia. I have not been on for a couple of years, so looking forward to all the "new" mechanics
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